i've finally found a place where i belong:
KAIZOKU-OU FORUM
that's the place for all one piece freaks to gather and speculate on things such as this that's been bugging me ever since luffy encounters teach in mocktown:
when luffy saw teach in mock town, there seems to be some tension goin on between them. judging from the look on luffy's face, something IS up. like oda said before in some of the SBS column, luffy doesnt get intimidated easily because he's an idiot. and we all know how luffy smiles a lot, but he had the serious look on his face after he saw teach, and i dont think that's because he just got beaten up. and then there's this:
followed by this:
this gives an indication that luffy somehow realizes that the guy he just saw is someone powerful enough that he has to take him seriously. maybe he also somehow knows that it's fate that they should meet.
the idea of inherited will is that everyone with the middle name D has the ability to change the world (mentioned somewhere in the manga, dont remember exactly where), so far we have monkey D. luffy, portgas D. ace, and marshall D. teach. what will happen in the end, only oda knows (not even God knows what oda has in mind; he's full of surprises). but since it's fun to speculate, i think this would be related to "the new era of pirates" donquixote donflamingo was talking about.
i dont know, but here's my thought: "the new era of pirates" will eliminate all the weak pirates and only the strong ones can be a pirate. this is what the government have been working on with the shichibukai so that they wont have that many pirates around causing mess. but some pirates, like shanks, holds true to the idea that being a pirate means to have a dream and to chase it (remember everyone in the strawhat crew has a dream). teach is also a person with this ideal (he said so himself in mocktown). im sure luffy would also agree on that, but in that case, why would he fight teach?
from bellamy's speeches in mocktown, i think oda's sort of giving a hint on this "new age" thing that seems like it's going to conclude everything (final conflict, sort of)
luffy is definitely the type of person who would go against "new age"; he's a "dream age" type of person. but on the other hand, judging solely on the way teach spoke at mocktown, teach himself seems to also belong in dream age
which brings up something interesting: if he's against new age, then WHY did he send lafeitte to nominate him as crocodile's replacement in the shichibukai? i mean--unless the hints are wrong--don't we sort of already get the idea that this "new age" bellamy and donflamingo have been talking about involves the shichibukai? either as a pawn or the main player (i suspected the latter)
i can think of 2 possibilities: one would be that teach--although against new age--have a completely different view from luffy in the ideals of being a pirate (we've seen some pirates with different ideals that pisses luffy off: wapol, don kreig, crocodile) and because of this he's trying to sneak in to the shichibukai, sort of the idea of "destroying from the inside". another one would be that he's actually all for the new age and his conversation with luffy in mocktown is simply just to make fun of luffy (sarcasm, indeed). if you dont believe about luffy and teach having completely different view on things, i think oda's foreshadowing is pretty obvious in these pages: 15, 16, 17, 18 (these are from chapter 223).
if i had to choose, i'd go for the first one. oda seems to be giving too many foreshadows on teach and the dream age only to ultimately turns everything back and says "oh well, teach's not a dreamer either," especially after teach said "a man's dream will never die." (which takes up 2 whole pages in the manga with WHITE background, obviously for emphasis) i think this part somehow refers to (again) D's will
i'm all for the idea that luffy might team up with teach in the end (instead of fighting him) to beat up some other guy who's trying to destroy the dream age who's also stronger than both of them, but some poeple in the forum have argued against it since teach commited crewmate-killing crime in the whitebeard's ship while he was edward newgate's crew. this of course is against luffy's philosophy on crewmates, which he considers as friends, so this defies my claim that they might team up in the end. but remember that we haven't found out the motives yet; it might be something that would make even luffy want to beat the other guy up. remember that teach is not a captain in the first place, he's a member of a crew, so he doesn't get to decide what kinds of nakama (crewmate) he'll be getting. so it IS possible that teach's nakama-killing has no evil intention behind it. he doesn't seem like a guy who would kill for no apparent reason; he said "anyone who wants to be a first-rate pirate, will encounter a time when there is no reason to fight back," which is exactly what shanks did when he was bullied at the bar by higuma at the very beginning of one piece (volume ONE). SEE SOME PARALLELISM HERE?
in the end, i think we might see a grand finale between straw hat pirates and blackbeard pirates. from what oda has shown us, i think i can safely conclude that these fights might happen:
between the captain: luffy vs teach,
between ship doctors: chopper vs doc q,
between ship's sharpshooters: usopp vs van auger (i personally wanna see van auger win. he's so damn cool).
but im still not sure whether it's sanji or zoro vs jesus burgess and lafeitte. it's possible that lafeitte will use his staff as a sword and will fight zoro, but i'd go with jesus burgess vs zoro since they're both more of the "brute force" type of people. and who knows? lafeitte might be good with his feet so he gets to fight sanji (but wont be as good as bon clay the okama though. haha, i miss him and his swan shoes)
call that over-analysis, let's see if you can come up with a better one?
Tuesday, March 23, 2004
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